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Mrs Vindecco Administrator Posts: 1,561	Interesting "Der Verlorene" Article Aug 11, 2012 11:09:01 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Mrs Vindecco on Aug 11, 2012 11:09:01 GMT Not sure if I agree with everything that is said here, but it's still an interesting enough read. sensesofcinema.com/2007/cteq/verlorene/

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Interesting "Der Verlorene" Article Aug 16, 2012 0:30:47 GMT

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Post by meerschwein on Aug 16, 2012 0:30:47 GMT

I wouldn't describe Peter's character in "Engineers in Ingolstadt" as a sex maniac, just a conventionally horny teenaged virgin. plus I would definitely quibble with his characterization of Ugarte, Joel Cairo and Gino as "obsequious toad"s! Harrumph.

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Interesting "Der Verlorene" Article Aug 24, 2012 10:48:49 GMT

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Post by Mrs Vindecco on Aug 24, 2012 10:48:49 GMT

I get sick of the "toad" comments. Speaking of Engineers Of Ingolstadt, I was wondering does anyone knows if an English version of the text exists. I've looked on amazon and ebay and tried to google it to no avail. I would really like to read it.

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Interesting "Der Verlorene" Article Aug 24, 2012 20:26:50 GMT

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Post by woofy on Aug 24, 2012 20:26:50 GMT

Aug 24, 2012 10:48:49 GMT Mrs Vindecco said:

Actually, that should be Pioneers In Ingolstadt (Pioniere in Ingolstadt). There's a 1970 film version directed by Fassbinder. That would have the English subtitles. (I don't really know the play, so I don't know how much RWF's version differs from the original. Writing credit is given to both Fassbinder and Marieluise Fleisser (who wrote the original play), so there has to be some connection.)

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Interesting "Der Verlorene" Article Aug 24, 2012 23:16:27 GMT

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Post by Mrs Vindecco on Aug 24, 2012 23:16:27 GMT

Thanks Woofy. Never been sure what the actual name is in English. I would type the German title, but I'm scared of making spelling errors. I have seen the Fassbinder DVD, I just really enjoy reading the texts. I'm surprised it's not available in English, with the Brecht connection I thought a few Theatre students would be interested.

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Interesting "Der Verlorene" Article Aug 25, 2012 1:50:11 GMT

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Aug 24, 2012 23:16:27 GMT Mrs Vindecco said:

I don't know how good your German is, but the original is available in the Manchester (UK) series: ISBN 978-0719034688.

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